{"id":596,"date":"2013-09-23T20:53:48","date_gmt":"2013-09-23T19:53:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/?p=596"},"modified":"2013-09-23T21:00:02","modified_gmt":"2013-09-23T20:00:02","slug":"lhistoire-au-journal-de-20-heures-sur-france-2-debat-sur-la-disparition-de-la-chronologie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/New\/lhistoire-au-journal-de-20-heures-sur-france-2-debat-sur-la-disparition-de-la-chronologie\/","title":{"rendered":"L\u2019histoire au Journal de 20 heures sur France 2 : D\u00e9bat sur la disparition de la chronologie."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.francetvinfo.fr\/enseignement-nouvelle-approche-en-histoire_414243.html\">Reportage<\/a> : \u00ab <strong>Depuis plusieurs ann\u00e9es, une approche th\u00e9matique est privil\u00e9gi\u00e9e. Plusieurs grands noms de l&rsquo;Histoire fran\u00e7aise demandent aujourd&rsquo;hui un retour \u00e0 la chronologie.<\/strong> Pour eux, les \u00e9l\u00e8ves manquent de rep\u00e8res. \u2026\u00a0Jusque dans les ann\u00e9es 90, l&rsquo;enseignement de l&rsquo;histoire \u00e9tait chronologique. A gauche, un manuel de 1994, \u00e0 droite, un manuel de 2012. Dans le premier, les chapitres s&rsquo;encha\u00eenent chronologiquement. On y \u00e9tudie la guerre de 14-18 puis la r\u00e9volution russe de 1917 et enfin la crise de 1929. Dix ans plus tard, le contenu est chapitr\u00e9 par grands th\u00e8mes. La crise de 29 est ainsi trait\u00e9e avant la guerre de 1914-18 et avant la r\u00e9volution russe de 1917.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-ou-th\u00e8mes.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-597\" title=\"F2 dates ou th\u00e8mes\" src=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-ou-th\u00e8mes.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"684\" srcset=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-ou-th\u00e8mes.jpg 620w, https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-ou-th\u00e8mes-271x300.jpg 271w, https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-ou-th\u00e8mes-600x661.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a>Pour certains profs d&rsquo;histoire, le risque est de perdre en compr\u00e9hension. (Hubert Tison de l&rsquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.aphg.fr\/\">APHG<\/a>) Exemple avec la Seconde Guerre mondiale. \u00c7a commence par les grandes phases, mais les raisons ? On n&rsquo;en sait rien. Il y a l&rsquo;expansion de l&rsquo;Allemagne nazie. Les raisons, vous les trouvez plus tard. On les trouve dans le th\u00e8me \u00ab\u00a0Les totalitarismes\u00a0\u00bb. Tout est m\u00e9lang\u00e9, il faut embo\u00eeter les choses autrement, c&rsquo;est difficile pour un professeur et les \u00e9l\u00e8ves sont perdus.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-Ferro1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-603\" title=\"F2 dates Ferro\" src=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-Ferro1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"831\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-Ferro1.jpg 831w, https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-Ferro1-300x173.jpg 300w, https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-Ferro1-600x346.jpg 600w, https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/F2-dates-Ferro1-500x288.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 831px) 100vw, 831px\" \/><\/a>Mais selon marc Ferro, inutile d&rsquo;apprendre par c\u0153ur une litanie de (nombreuses) dates. L&rsquo;important est de comprendre l&rsquo;encha\u00eenement des \u00e9v\u00e8nements. Il faut quatre ou cinq points d&rsquo;ancrage, pas plus. Il y a pour le Moyen Age les invasions, les croisades, Saint-Louis.\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>Source et image\u00a0: Transcription du texte du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.francetvinfo.fr\/enseignement-nouvelle-approche-en-histoire_414243.html\">reportage de France 2<\/a>\u00a0sur le sujet, qui provoque <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.rue89.com\/journal.histoire\/2013\/09\/23\/de-france-2-au-point-le-populisme-revisite-les-programmes-dhistoire-231190\">la col\u00e8re du blogueur prof d&rsquo;histoire de Rue 89<\/a>, qui nie le fait que bien des manuels adoptent une approche th\u00e9matique de la succession des chapitres, mais aussi\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/chronologie-en-histoire-presque-rien-na-change\/\">\u00e0 l\u2019int\u00e9rieur des chapitres<\/a> et de l\u2019enracinement des dates et <a href=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/il-ny-a-toujours-pas-de-heros-dans-les-manuels-dhistoire\/\">des personnages<\/a> dans le d\u00e9roulement du cours.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reportage : \u00ab Depuis plusieurs ann\u00e9es, une approche th\u00e9matique est privil\u00e9gi\u00e9e. Plusieurs grands noms de l&rsquo;Histoire fran\u00e7aise demandent aujourd&rsquo;hui un retour \u00e0 la chronologie. Pour eux, les \u00e9l\u00e8ves manquent de rep\u00e8res. \u2026\u00a0Jusque dans les ann\u00e9es 90, l&rsquo;enseignement de l&rsquo;histoire \u00e9tait &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/New\/lhistoire-au-journal-de-20-heures-sur-france-2-debat-sur-la-disparition-de-la-chronologie\/\">Continuer la lecture <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[6,317,9],"tags":[318,257,104,319,320],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>L\u2019histoire au Journal de 20 heures sur France 2 : D\u00e9bat sur la disparition de la chronologie. - L&#039;Histoire politis\u00e9e L&#039;histoire fabriqu\u00e9e<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/histoirefabriquee.com\/New\/lhistoire-au-journal-de-20-heures-sur-france-2-debat-sur-la-disparition-de-la-chronologie\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"L\u2019histoire au Journal de 20 heures sur France 2 : D\u00e9bat sur la disparition de la chronologie. - L&#039;Histoire politis\u00e9e L&#039;histoire fabriqu\u00e9e\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Reportage : \u00ab Depuis plusieurs ann\u00e9es, une approche th\u00e9matique est privil\u00e9gi\u00e9e. 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